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Internet Service Providers to block sites like Facebook and other password protected sites.
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Skybuck Flying
2016-06-24 17:44:22 UTC
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Hello,

I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block websites
behind "logins and passwords".

This goes against the open nature of the internet.

Bye,
Skybuck.
Skybuck Flying
2016-06-24 17:49:09 UTC
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This also includes other forms of hamperments like "get mobile code" and
stuff like that.

Bye,
Skybuck.
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2016-06-24 17:59:56 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
Hello,
I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block
websites behind "logins and passwords".
This goes against the open nature of the internet.
How could you identify yourself?
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不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
Skybuck Flying
2016-06-26 05:31:32 UTC
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It would still be allowed to have login and passwords, but it must have some
function.

Right now some websites might disappear beyond some kind of unnecessary
"facebook login-lock".

"Login with facebook" is spreading like a cancer.

And then there are others...
Post by Skybuck Flying
Hello,
I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block
websites behind "logins and passwords".
This goes against the open nature of the internet.
How could you identify yourself?
--
@~@ Remain silent. Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23) Linux 4.5.7-200.fc23.x86_64
^ ^ 01:51:01 up 1 day 10:13 0 users load average: 1.22 1.12 1.03
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2016-06-26 12:32:34 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
It would still be allowed to have login and passwords, but it must have
some function.
Right now some websites might disappear beyond some kind of unnecessary
"facebook login-lock".
"Login with facebook" is spreading like a cancer.
And then there are others...
Not an expert in this field, no further comment.
BUT...
if you want absolute security to your bank accounts, DO NOT get them
online. :)
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不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
Reinhardt Behm
2016-06-26 13:22:04 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Post by Skybuck Flying
It would still be allowed to have login and passwords, but it must have
some function.
Right now some websites might disappear beyond some kind of unnecessary
"facebook login-lock".
"Login with facebook" is spreading like a cancer.
And then there are others...
Not an expert in this field, no further comment.
BUT...
if you want absolute security to your bank accounts, DO NOT get them
online. :)
If you want absolute security for your money don't even give it to a bank
:-)
--
Reinhardt
James R. Kuyper
2016-06-26 14:49:08 UTC
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On 06/26/2016 08:32 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
if you want absolute security to your bank accounts, DO NOT get them
online. :)
Absolute security is simply unavailable. However, if your goal is simply
to improve security, you should open online access to any bank account
for which online access is available. Why? Because in general, if you
haven't opened up access, someone who wants access to your account only
needs your name and your account number to set up online access for
themselves. However, once you have set up online access, they can't get
in without also being able to guess your password.

Many places will run a credit check on you as part of setting up your
account (in particular, this is likely to be the case for any credit
card or mortgage account). Some of those places won't let you have
online access until you've answered some questions based upon
information in your credit report - but in my experience, that's still
pretty uncommon, though it's getting more common.
rickman
2016-06-26 15:02:21 UTC
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Post by James R. Kuyper
....
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
if you want absolute security to your bank accounts, DO NOT get them
online. :)
Absolute security is simply unavailable. However, if your goal is simply
to improve security, you should open online access to any bank account
for which online access is available. Why? Because in general, if you
haven't opened up access, someone who wants access to your account only
needs your name and your account number to set up online access for
themselves. However, once you have set up online access, they can't get
in without also being able to guess your password.
I have not found that to be true. But you should read the full online
user agreement. I found a bank I was using, rather than assuring me
that my funds were protected, required me to *indemnify* them against
any losses!!! WTF???!!! I no longer use them and I let them know why.
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Rick C
Gordon Burditt
2016-06-30 01:01:30 UTC
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Post by James R. Kuyper
Many places will run a credit check on you as part of setting up your
account (in particular, this is likely to be the case for any credit
card or mortgage account).
Some of those places won't let you have
online access until you've answered some questions based upon
information in your credit report - but in my experience, that's still
pretty uncommon, though it's getting more common.
There's some service that does that. One place that used it was/is
the US Postal Service. They aren't interested in my credit. They
are interested that I actually own the address I claim to own, as
the account I was trying to open lets me know about incoming packages
to that address and re-route them elsewhere. (A thief could steal
packages without going anywhere near my home. Of course, the USPS
does keep track of where the package was actually delivered, so a
thief using his own real address would be pretty stupid.)

I am disappointed in some of the questions they ask. They seem to
know about my car (there's nothing about that on my credit report.
I paid cash. And even if I did get a car loan, that wouldn't include
the make, model, year and color of the car, so maybe they have the
auto registration list), but so do a lot of people - my neighbors,
anyone who sees me parking it at work, etc.

They asked me when the house I was living in was built. Well, *I*
didn't know the exact year. Some of my neighbors know that. They
ask about loans / credit card accounts and what year I opened them.

Generally, it seems too easy to get by, although I have failed it
twice. I don't know at what point it quits letting me try, but
when I failed it once I had to wait until the next day.
Skybuck Flying
2016-06-30 22:34:10 UTC
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The facebook madness seems to known no bounds. Read vaguely a story about
FBI/airports finding "non-facebook users" suspicious ?!

Lonely wolfs perhaps ?!

Fucked uppppppp !
M Philbrook
2016-06-30 23:01:07 UTC
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In article <62156$57759e62$d47876e2$***@news.ziggo.nl>, skybuck2000
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Post by Skybuck Flying
The facebook madness seems to known no bounds. Read vaguely a story about
FBI/airports finding "non-facebook users" suspicious ?!
Lonely wolfs perhaps ?!
Fucked uppppppp !
ouuuu, guess I should stay way from the airports then...

I have no facebook or trwitter accounts.. Only lost
souls hang out there.

Jamie
Skybuck Flying
2016-06-26 05:34:13 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
Hello,
I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block
websites behind "logins and passwords".
This goes against the open nature of the internet.
"
How could you identify yourself?
"

Also, for just "browsing" a website, why would you need to identify yourself
?

That suxxx.
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^ ^ 01:51:01 up 1 day 10:13 0 users load average: 1.22 1.12 1.03
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
John Larkin
2016-06-24 18:33:57 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:44:22 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
Post by Skybuck Flying
Hello,
I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block websites
behind "logins and passwords".
This goes against the open nature of the internet.
Bye,
Skybuck.
How could you log in? And do you want anyone to buy things on your
ebay account?

I just ignore the New York Times and the Washington Post and anybody
else who wants my email address, and money, to see news.

Open internet implies open to sites that want passwords and sites that
don't.

Scientific journals should not be paywalled. Most of the research had
some public funding.
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rickman
2016-06-26 14:05:36 UTC
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Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:44:22 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
Post by Skybuck Flying
Hello,
I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block websites
behind "logins and passwords".
This goes against the open nature of the internet.
Bye,
Skybuck.
How could you log in? And do you want anyone to buy things on your
ebay account?
I just ignore the New York Times and the Washington Post and anybody
else who wants my email address, and money, to see news.
Open internet implies open to sites that want passwords and sites that
don't.
Scientific journals should not be paywalled. Most of the research had
some public funding.
Lol, things other people want can be charged for, but the stuff you want
should be free.
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Rick C
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2016-09-28 02:03:01 UTC
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Post by Skybuck Flying
I would like it if Internet Service Providers would start to block websites
behind "logins and passwords".
This goes against the open nature of the internet.
Many sites require a free account for access. Most of the time, I sign up.

If they want money, I usually don't. That is, other than sites
actually selling something.

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