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Skybuck's Super PC for 2023 design version 11 final
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Skybuck Flying
2023-04-26 19:48:40 UTC
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Skybuck's Super PC for 2023 design version 11 final:

Publication date: 26 april 2023

(All components ordered, payed, delivered and present, build will commence in the coming days)

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Component Selection/Design & Description/Specifics:
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1. 4K OLED Monitor: ASUS OLED PG42UQ (native resolution: 3840x2160, Herz: 138 Hz, 16:9, response time: 0.1 ms, wide screen: 42.0 inch, HDMI 2.0/2.1, DisplayPort, HDR10)
Price: € 1636,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2077/933440/Monitoren/ASUS-ROG-Swift-PG42UQ-4K-Ultra-HD-105-4-cm-41-5-3840-x-2160-Pixels-OLED-Zwart-monitor
Available in POP-UP Store: No

2. PC Case: MSI MEG Prospect 700R (2 harddisk bays, 2 solid state disk bays)
Price: € 369,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/0/1071987/MSI-MEG-PROSPECT-700R?r=tweakers.net&utm_source=tweakers.net&utm_medium=cpc
Available in POP-UP Store: No

3. Power supply: MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 (atx 3.0, pcie 5.0, 1300 watts, modular)
Price: € 329,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/4186/1126867/PC-Voedingen-PSU-/MSI-MEG-Ai1300P-PCIE5-PSU-PC-voeding
Available in POP-UP Store: No

4. Motherboard: ASRock B650E Steel Legend WiFi
( ATX form factor
1 PCIe 5.0 x16, 1 HDMI ?, 1 DisplayPort, 7.1 CH HD Audio, Nahimic Audio, 1 M.2(PCIe Gen5x4), 2 M.2(PCIe Gen4x4), 2 SATA3,
1 USB 3.2 Gen2x2 Type-C (Front), 2 USB 3.2 Gen2 Type A+C (Rear), 8 USB 3.2 Gen1 (4 Rear, 4 Front), 6 USB 2.0 (2 Rear, 4 Front), Realtek 2.5G LAN
802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2 )
Price: € 294,90
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/8197/262399/AMD-Socket-AM5-Moederborden/Asrock-B650E-Steel-Legend-WiFi
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

5. Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D (4,2 GHz (5,7 GHz Turbo Boost), socket AM5, 16 (Hexadeca-Core), 128 MB, 120 Watt, 32 threads, Unlocked, Boxed, AMD Radeon Graphics)
Price: € 799,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/8200/294962/Socket-AM5-Processoren/AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X3D
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

6. CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black (2 x 140 mm, 24.6 dB, w 150 h 165 mm d 161 mm, 1320 gram, 83 CFM, 2.08 mm/H2O, PWM controlled)
Price: € 119,90
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/1994/276767/CPU-Luchtkoeling/Noctua-NH-D15-chromax-black
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

7. CPU Thermal Interface Material (paste): Artic Silver 5 (12g)
Price: € 19,90
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2504/943266/Koelpasta-en-pads/Arctic-Silver-5-12-gram
Available in POP-UP Store: No

8. Memory Module 1: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40 (2x32GB, 6000 MHz, CL40, RGB, DDR5)
9. Memory Module 2: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40 (2x32GB, 6000 MHz, CL40, RGB, DDR5)
Price: € 409,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/7962/1074843/DDR5-Geheugen/Corsair-DDR5-Dominator-Platinum-RGB-2x32GB-6000
Available in POP-UP Store: No

10. Memory Module 3: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40 (2x32GB, 6000 MHz, CL40, RGB, DDR5)
11. Memory Module 4: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40 (2x32GB, 6000 MHz, CL40, RGB, DDR5)
Price: € 409,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/7962/1074843/DDR5-Geheugen/Corsair-DDR5-Dominator-Platinum-RGB-2x32GB-6000
Available in POP-UP Store: No

12. Graphics Card 1: ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Ti STRIX OC (12 GB, 2790 MHz, 7680 CUDA cores, GDDR6X, DLSS 3, 3.15 slots, PCI-E 4.0, 1x 16-pin power, 192 bit bus, W 150 mm H 63 mm L 336 mm, 3 x Displayport, 2 x HDMI, OpenGL 4.6, Max Display Support 4)
Price: € 1129,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/1963/295898/Nvidia-Videokaarten/Asus-GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-ROG-STRIX-RTX4070TI-O12G-GAMING-Videokaart
Available in POP-UP Store: No

13. Graphics Card 2: Possible, but a tight fit, plus low bandwidth, not recommendable, though another pci express device would be possible, but not recommendable, obstructs airflow, unless thinner graphics card is used in future.

14. Sound card: not needed (Audio signals via graphics card and HDMI output port or motherboard chip and HDMI output port)

15. Network card: not needed (Networking via ethernet chip and ports integrated on Motherboard)

16. Harddisk 1: 22 TB WD Gold, 22 TB hard disk (WD221KRYZ) ( WD HDD, 3.5 inch, 22TB, SATA III, 7200 RPM, 670 gram)
Price: € 649,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2036/1061221/Hard-disks-3-5-/WD-HDD-3-5-22TB-S-ATA3-WD221KRYZ-Gold
Available in POP-UP Store: No

17. Harddisk 2: 22 TB WD Gold, 22 TB hard disk (WD221KRYZ) ( WD HDD, 3.5 inch, 22TB, SATA III, 7200 RPM, 670 gram)
Price: € 649,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2036/1061221/Hard-disks-3-5-/WD-HDD-3-5-22TB-S-ATA3-WD221KRYZ-Gold
Available in POP-UP Store: No

18. CD/DVD/Blueray burner: not needed (obsolete technology, download via highspeed internet)

19. Keyboard: MOUNTAIN EVEREST MAX Modulair RGB Gunmetal Gray, MX Red toetsenbord
Price: € 249,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2166/255628/Toetsenborden/MOUNTAIN-EVEREST-MAX-Modulair-RGB-Gunmetal-Gray-MX-Red-toetsenbord
Available in POP-UP Store: No

20. Mouse: Logitech G203 LIGHTSYNC gaming muis
Price: € 30,90
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2169/288082/Muizen-bedraad/Logitech-G-G203-Lightsync-Zwart-muis
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

21. Speaker set: Already have Creative Gigaworks S750 (subwoofer broke, replaced by Denon Receiver 1909 to drive/power speakers)

22. Powered subwoofer: ? maybe later ! ;) or never, I don't really like boom boom boom, bad for ears too.

23. Solid State Disk 1 (large, back of motherboard, sata3): Unused, Future expansion, concerned about low airflow on the back of motherboard, would have to be a low heat component. Not possible with this motherboard, no more free sata connectors, but better this way, maybe to risky on back side of motherboard. Maybe some kind of usb device could be used, though that might interfere with performance of other usb components ?!? (Sata3 Write/Read speeds slower anyway than m2 slots, plus sata drives twice as expensive ?!, would have still be nice to have this expansion capability though... but my half-sister already ordered this wifi version motherboard so I stick with it for now ! ;) =D)

24. Solid State Disk 2 (large, back of motherboard, sata3): Unused, Future expansion, concerned about low airflow on the back of motherboard, would have to be a low heat component. Not possible with this motherboard, no more free sata connectors, but better this way, maybe to risky on back side of motherboard. Maybe some kind of usb device could be used, though that might interfere with performance of other usb components ?!? (Sata3 Write/Read speeds slower anyway than m2 slots, plus sata drives twice as expensive ?!, would have still be nice to have this expansion capability though... but my half-sister already ordered this wifi version motherboard so I stick with it for now ! ;) =D)

25. Solid State Disk 3 (strip, m2_1 on motherboard): Kingston KC3000 4TB M.2 SSD (read 7000 MB/s, write 7000 MB/s, read 2.7 Watt, write 10.2 Watt, 4K Random Reads 1,000,000 IOPS, 4K Random Writes 1,000,000 IOPS, Compact M.2 2280 form factor)
Price: € 384,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/5093/286296/SSD-M-2/Kingston-KC3000-4TB-M-2-SSD
Available in POP-UP Store: No

26. Solid State Disk 4 (strip, m2_2 on motherboard): Kingston KC3000 4TB M.2 SSD (read 7000 MB/s, write 7000 MB/s, read 2.7 Watt, write 10.2 Watt, 4K Random Reads 1,000,000 IOPS, 4K Random Writes 1,000,000 IOPS, Compact M.2 2280 form factor)
Price: € 384,00
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/5093/286296/SSD-M-2/Kingston-KC3000-4TB-M-2-SSD
Available in POP-UP Store: No

27. Solid State Disk 4 (strip, m2_3 on motherboard): Unused, Future expansion.

28. Solid State Disk 4 (strip, m2_4 on motherboard): m2_4 not present on Wi-Fi version, it has no cooling anyway I think on "full version".

29. External (USB) All-In-One Card reader: Sitecom MD-061 USB 3.0 Memory Card Reader
(
CF, CF Type II, GeheugeNeestick, Geheugenstick, MicroSD, MicroSDHC, MicroSDXC,
miNeeiSD, MMC, MS DUO, MS Micro (M2), MS PRO, MS PRO Duo, MS PRO Duo HS, MS PRO Duo Mark 2,
MS ProHG, MS ProHG Duo, MS ProHG Duo HX, MS XCHG Duo, MSXC, SD, SDHC, SDXC, xD
)
Price: € 31,95
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/1948/989037/Cardreader-Extern/Sitecom-MD-061-USB-3-0-Memory-Card-Reader-geheugenkaartlezer
Available in POP-UP Store: No

30. Extra Top PC Case Fan 1: Cooler Master SickleFlow 140 ARGB (650 ~ 1400 RPM, 67 CFM, 2.2 mm/H2O, 27 dB, RGB, ARGB (3 pins), PWM Controlled)
Price: € 18,95
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/1996/294648/Case-fan-140mm/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-140-ARGB
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

31. Extra Top PC Case Fan 2: Cooler Master SickleFlow 140 ARGB (650 ~ 1400 RPM, 67 CFM, 2.2 mm/H2O, 27 dB, RGB, ARGB (3 pins), PWM Controlled)
Price: € 18,95
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/1996/294648/Case-fan-140mm/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-140-ARGB
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

32. Extra Top PC Case Fan 3: Cooler Master SickleFlow 140 ARGB (650 ~ 1400 RPM, 67 CFM, 2.2 mm/H2O, 27 dB, RGB, ARGB (3 pins), PWM Controlled)
Price: € 18,95
Supplier: https://www.megekko.nl/product/1996/294648/Case-fan-140mm/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-140-ARGB
Available in POP-UP Store: Yes

Total: € 7949.40

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Conclusion:
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A COMPLETE WIN FOR MEGEKKO.NL ! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DELIVERING ALL THESE HI-TECH, STATE OF THE ART, COMPONENTS !

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Order, Pay, Delivery phases for Skybuck's Super PC for 2023 design version 11 final:
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Phase 1, Order, Pay, Deliver:

5. Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
Price: € 799,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/8200/294962/Socket-AM5-Processoren/AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X3D

Phase 1 Components Total: € 799,00
+ Phase 1 Transport Costs : € 3,95
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Phase 1 Total Costs : € 802.95

Phase 2, Order, Pay, Deliver:

1. 4K OLED Monitor: ASUS OLED PG42UQ
Price: € 1636,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2077/933440/Monitoren/ASUS-ROG-Swift-PG42UQ-4K-Ultra-HD-105-4-cm-41-5-3840-x-2160-Pixels-OLED-Zwart-monitor

2. PC Case: MSI MEG Prospect 700R
Price: € 369,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/0/1071987/MSI-MEG-PROSPECT-700R?r=tweakers.net&utm_source=tweakers.net&utm_medium=cpc

3. Power supply: MEG Ai1300P PCIE5
Price: € 329,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4186/1126867/PC-Voedingen-PSU-/MSI-MEG-Ai1300P-PCIE5-PSU-PC-voeding

4. Motherboard: ASRock B650E Steel Legend WiFi
Price: € 294,90
https://www.megekko.nl/product/8197/262399/AMD-Socket-AM5-Moederborden/Asrock-B650E-Steel-Legend-WiFi

Phase 2 Components Total: € 2628.90
+ Phase 2 Transport Costs : € 0 (special action: free shipment when ordering this specific monitor)
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Phase 2 Total Costs : € 2628.90

Phase 3, Order, Pay, Deliver:

6. CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
Price: € 119,90
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1994/276767/CPU-Luchtkoeling/Noctua-NH-D15-chromax-black

7. CPU Thermal Interface Material (paste): Artic Silver 5 (12g)
Price: € 19,90
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2504/943266/Koelpasta-en-pads/Arctic-Silver-5-12-gram

8. Memory Module 1: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40
9. Memory Module 2: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40
Price: € 409,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/7962/1074843/DDR5-Geheugen/Corsair-DDR5-Dominator-Platinum-RGB-2x32GB-6000

10. Memory Module 3: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40
11. Memory Module 4: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40
Price: € 409,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/7962/1074843/DDR5-Geheugen/Corsair-DDR5-Dominator-Platinum-RGB-2x32GB-6000

12. Graphics Card 1: ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Ti STRIX OC
Price: € 1129,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1963/295898/Nvidia-Videokaarten/Asus-GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-ROG-STRIX-RTX4070TI-O12G-GAMING-Videokaart

16. Harddisk 1: 22 TB WD Gold, 22 TB hard disk (WD221KRYZ)
Price: € 649,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2036/1061221/Hard-disks-3-5-/WD-HDD-3-5-22TB-S-ATA3-WD221KRYZ-Gold

17. Harddisk 2: 22 TB WD Gold, 22 TB hard disk (WD221KRYZ)
Price: € 649,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2036/1061221/Hard-disks-3-5-/WD-HDD-3-5-22TB-S-ATA3-WD221KRYZ-Gold

19. Keyboard: MOUNTAIN EVEREST MAX Modulair RGB Gunmetal Gray, MX Red toetsenbord
Price: € 249,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2166/255628/Toetsenborden/MOUNTAIN-EVEREST-MAX-Modulair-RGB-Gunmetal-Gray-MX-Red-toetsenbord

20. Mouse: Logitech G203 LIGHTSYNC gaming muis
Price: € 30,90
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2169/288082/Muizen-bedraad/Logitech-G-G203-Lightsync-Zwart-muis

25. Solid State Disk 3 (strip, m2_1 on motherboard): Kingston KC3000 4TB M.2 SSD
Price: € 384,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/5093/286296/SSD-M-2/Kingston-KC3000-4TB-M-2-SSD

26. Solid State Disk 4 (strip, m2_2 on motherboard): Kingston KC3000 4TB M.2 SSD
Price: € 384,00
https://www.megekko.nl/product/5093/286296/SSD-M-2/Kingston-KC3000-4TB-M-2-SSD

29. External (USB) All-In-One Card reader: Sitecom MD-061 USB 3.0 Memory Card Reader
Price: € 31,95
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1948/989037/Cardreader-Extern/Sitecom-MD-061-USB-3-0-Memory-Card-Reader-geheugenkaartlezer

30. Extra Top PC Case Fan 1: Cooler Master SickleFlow 140 ARGB
Price: € 18,95
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1996/294648/Case-fan-140mm/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-140-ARGB

31. Extra Top PC Case Fan 2: Cooler Master SickleFlow 140 ARGB
Price: € 18,95
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1996/294648/Case-fan-140mm/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-140-ARGB

32. Extra Top PC Case Fan 3: Cooler Master SickleFlow 140 ARGB
Price: € 18,95
https://www.megekko.nl/product/1996/294648/Case-fan-140mm/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-140-ARGB

Phase 3 Components Total: € 4521.50
+ Phase 3 Transport Costs : € 0 (special action: free shipment when ordering this specific keyboard or this specific mouse)
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Phase 3 Total Costs : € 4521.50


Total Component Costs: Phase 1 (€ 799,00) + Phase 2 (€ 2628.90) + Phase 3 (€ 4521.50) = € 7949.40
+Total Transport Costs: Phase 1 (€ 3,95) + Phase 2 (€ 0) + Phase 3 (€ 0) = € 3.95
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Total Costs : Phase 1 (€ 802.95) + Phase 2 (€ 2628.90) + Phase 3 (€ 4521.50) = € 7953.35

Free bonus items:
1. ASRock steel legend mug (from phase 2)
2. NVIDIA game voucher: Overwatch 2 GeForce RTX Bundle (from phase 3)


Skybuck's SuperPC for 2023 youtube/video playlist, unboxing, build, etc, work in progress:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0HGds8aHQsAbzRQHDtSlhxEAeGj5rzil


!!! BEGIN OF WARNING !!!

1. There are reports of AMD Ryzen 7xxx series processors/cpu blowing up/damaged/failing.
1.1 AMD Ryzen 7xxx processors with and without 3D-V-Cache are affected.
1.2 All motherboard vendors are affected.

2. Most likely causes:
2.1 Too much voltage/power being delivered to the processor/cpu especially to the 3d-v-cache/l3d/sram embedded memory chip.
2.2 Possibly caused by wrong motherboard/bios/uefi settings/firmware, delivering too much power.
2.3 (I suspect maybe a throttling bug in the processor;
bucket(s) of throttling algorithm not cleared/empty on idle or nothing taken out of bucket
when executing "no operation" (nop) instructions)
2.4 Processor sensors overloaded with voltage/ampere/power and damaging the sensors.
2.5 Damaged sensors leading to overheat as much as 300+ degrees celcius causing bulging and bent pins.
2.6 Possibility of further short circuits, explosions and even fire, perhaps even electrocution.
2.7 CPU & GPU Software, tools, drivers overclocking the CPU, memory, overriding bios/uefi settings.
2.8 Processor can die very fast even within minutes if too much power, though most failures seemed to have happened
within 10 hours or 48 hours especially after an idling session. Perhaps processor damaged earlier, like sensors,
and fall out happens later.

Possible mitigations/fixes/solutions:

3. Reduce voltage/power to processor.
3.1 Adjust voltage settings in bios/uefi manually to "safe settings", not sure what the safe settings are.
(Anything above 1.25 volts or 1.305 volts is not safe)
3.2 Update motherboard/bios/uefi firmware to latest version, even if it's a beta version.
3.3 Disable automatic memory overclocking such as: XMP/EXPO.
3.4 Run memory at safe/designed speeds/specification:
According to AMD's website/specification:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d
3.4.1 Two DDR5 memory sticks at 5200 MHz.
3.4.2 Four DDR5 memory sticks at 3600 MHz
3.5 Motherboard might provide a "flash back" functionality without requiring a CPU installed, this would be safest (?!)
3.6 While upgrading the firmware on motherboard/bios/uefi it is important to have stable power. The power should not fail/drop/blackout otherwise
the motherboard might be damaged and not work anymore and "servicing" by manufacturer will be required.
3.7 Do not install any CPU & GPU software, drivers, tools which could overclock the CPU, GPU or main memory/RAM, such as Ryzen Master.

4. Observe voltage levels with hardware monitoring tools.
4.1 Pay attention to "maximum values", if voltage values are 1.35 volts or higher like 2.0 volts it might be wise/safer to shut down the system and wait
for further information to become available, if these are faulty/error read outs or actually true values.

The situation is being investigated by AMD and others.

!!! END OF WARNING !!!

Bye,
Skybuck.
Skybuck Flying
2023-10-31 17:02:48 UTC
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31 october 2023:

Skybuck's Super PC for 2023 is now ready for consumption !

Picture:
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Video:
http://skybuck.org/Hardware/SuperPC2023/SkybuckSuperPC2023.MOV

Some small tasks can still be done to improve it further:

1. Update monitor firmware for improved colors.
2. Update pc case firmware for pc case display and fans.
3. Update keyboard firmware further.

Perhaps:
4. Install Ryzen Master
5. Install Mouse Driver

( Windows 11, Chipset driver, Graphics drivers, DirectX, MSI Center already installed, vc runtime libraries for certain games still missing, most notably Starwars Battlefront 2. I play on playing some World of Warships tonight).

Downloading World of Warships was first slow 80 KByte/sec, apperently it was still punching through the windows 11 firewall. After restarting the game client the download reach it max peak of 25 Megabyte/sec (The limit I set just in case). The game installed noticeably very fast, probably a few minutes. Normally this would take hours or days even, so this proved to me the system is very powerfull and usefull.

I hope you enjoyed the picture ;) and I hope you enjoyed the video !

Now you know what to expect if you copy-cat this build ! I wish you the best !

Bye,
Skybuck.

P.S.: This build feels very relaxed... ready for the digital future !
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